THE
CAUSES OF THE
BANS
Fox-hunting
is under attack
in many countries,
but bans
have succeeded
in only a few.
Single interest
pressure groups
lobbying for
animals rights
(such as IFAW--the
International
Fund for Animal
Welfare) have
spread and still
are spreading
false information
about alleged
cruelty etc.
Individual members
of such organisations
often have good
motives but
the overwhelming
majority have
formed their
opinions on
purely emotional
grounds. They
have never questioned
whether their
emotions are
well founded
or whether they
are being misinformed
by their leaders.
They have not
sought to learn
the truth about
fox-hunting.
The worst case
was probably
in England and
Wales. A majority
of members of
the House of
Commons (part
of the UK Parliament)
have voted for
a VIRTUALLY
TOTAL BAN. These
politicians
(mostly Socialist)
are seeking
political gain
in the shorter
term.
We know this
because their
attitude is
illogical: "If
fox-hunting (which
they include
within Hunting
with Dogs) is
believed to
be cruel and
to degrade the
welfare of the
fox population,
so must Fishing,
Shooting, Falconry,
Ferreting etc.
Why then has
Hunting with
Dogs been singled
out? In the
UK most people
believe that
fox-hunting is
the sport of
the "upper"
(moneyed, landed
and/or priveleged)
classes. Thus
most of the
Anti-fox-hunting
politicians
seek a Banning
the belief that
it would be
another victory
in the long
"socialist
struggle"
against the
upper class
and, therefore,
in their own
political interests
and those of
their Party.
In fact people from all classes, occupations and incomes participate in fox-hunting
in the UK. It is enjoyed by as many low income pensioners from the rural cultural
minority as landowners and high income executives. Most members of the public, who
are opposed to fox-hunting, are from the majority urban cultural group ("urbans").
So are the majority of Members of Parliament. It follows that the spread of the UK's
version of urban culture throughout the island has disenfranchised fox-hunting's supporters
relative to its opponents.
The bans on
fox-hunting are
wholly illogical
except as purely
political gestures
pandering to
the class and
cultural prejudices,
which are such
a disgusting
feature of British
Society. When
freed from these
prejudices,
the British
people are solidly
against restriction
of the liberty
of anybody to
pursue activities
(like fox-hunting)
which do no
harm to the
interests of
others. If governments
pander to prejudices
of any type,
in time the
innate commonsense
of the British
will expose
the panderers
for the weaklings
they are. Such
governments
will, in due
course, lose the respect of the British people.
The whole sorry saga is a battle between logic and prejudice. Logic lost.
History
of attempts
to ban hunting
The
Foster Bill
The animals
rights lobby
in the UK has
played on public
emotion for
about a century
and has succeeded
in getting large
numbers to believe
that fox-hunting
is cruel and
unnecessary.
All previous
Bills which
would have banned
fox-hunting in
the UK have
failed. They
have been voted
down in the
House of Commons,
have been amended
to avoid contention
or, as in the
case of (Mr
Foster's Bill),
have been allowed
by the Government
to be "talked
out in the House
of Commons".
Foster was allowed
by the Labour
Government to
fall in order
to avoid the
delay to government
business which
would have occurred
had fox-hunting
been debated
by the pro-hunting
majority in
the House of
Lords. In attempting
to regain power
after many years
in the "wilderness",
the UK Labour
Party jumped
on any "bandwagon".
One was to oppose
fox-hunting on
the grounds
that a majority
of "the people"
wish to ban
hunting of wild
mammals with
dogs. Thus the
Labour MPs who
oppose fox-hunting
(the majority)
were frustrated
by the failure
of Mr Foster's
Private Member's
Bill.
The
sequence of attempts, that lead eventually to the Bans,
started in 1999
when several
MPs, supported
by propaganda
and funds from
the Political
Animal Lobby
(IFAW and friends),
the "Anti-Hunting
Labour MPs" attacked
the then UK Prime
Minister (Tony
Blair) and the
Government repeatedly.
They sought
to reverse the
defeat (talking
out of time
in The Commons)
of "The
Foster Private
Members Bill
to ban Hunting
with Dogs".
In
8 July 1999,
the PM made
a confused statement
about Government
intentions.
On
November 11
1999 the then UK
Home Secretary
(Jack Straw)
announced the
establishment
of THE
BURNS INQUIRY.His
announcement
contained the
following statements:
"------
the Government
will offer reasonable
time, if necessary,
and drafting
assistance for
this issue to
be considered
by the House
of Commons through
a Private
Member's Bill
on a free vote.
We shall consult
the House authorities,
as appropriate,
on how this
can best be
taken forward.
The Government
have decided
that there should
first be an
inquiry. This
will be a committee
of inquiry not
into whether
hunting is right
or wrong, which
is a matter
for Parliament
to decide. Instead,
the inquiry
will be put
in place better
to inform the
debate. -----------
The report will
be put before
Parliament.
Once the inquiry
has reported,
the Government's
offer of time
and drafting
assistance will
take effect immediately.
"
2000
THE
BURNS INQUIRY reported
on 12 June 2000.
The Inquiry
was fair minded
and properly
conducted, it
found no evidence
that hunting
causes unnecessary
suffering of
foxes (i.e.
no proof it
is cruel). It
also found that
insufficient
study and research
had been done
to clarify the
issues of cruelty
and welfare,
but it did not
have enough
time to initiate
and then await
the results
of the necessary
research.
Nevertheless
under
pressure from
anti-hunting
MPs, the
U.K. government
dropped its
preference for
a Private Members
Bill. Gordon
Prentice MP
put forward
an amendment
to the Countryside
and Rights of
Way (CROW) Bill
(during debate
in the Commons
in June 2000)
which would
have added a
ban on fox-hunting.
This would have
delayed the
whole Bill's
passage through
the Lords and
made it unlikely
to become law
within the current
Parliament.
Sensing the
importance attached
to CROW, Gordon Prentice
( an ardent
opponent of
fox-hunting )
seized the opportunity
and "bribed"
the Government by offering
to withdraw
his amendment
if it were to
introduce a
Government Bill
"to ban hunting".
The Government
accepted this
"bribe" and
the Home Secretary
went back on
his undertaking
to support a
Private Member's
Bill. His fresh
statement included
the following:
"I
now, however,
believe that
it would be
for the convenience
of the House
if there was
a Government
Bill in Government
time which contained
a series of
legislative
options on the
merits on which
there would
be free votes.---------I
anticipate a
Bill will be
introduced early
in the next
session." (that
is the session
beginning in
Oct/Nov 2000)"
This Government
Bill ("Mk1") "The 2000
Bill" contained
three options:
- "Total
Ban"
- "Middle
Way"---i.e.
Statutory
Regulation
- "Countryside
Alliance"---i.e.
Supervision
by the existing
Independent
Supervisory
Authority
for Hunting.
Before The
Burns Inquiry
had finished,
the government
stated that
this Bill would
be put before
the 2000/2001
parliament and
that it would
propose options,
including a
total ban. This
announcement,
far from awaiting
the "light"
that Burns was
to throw on
the matter,
jumped to the
conclusion that
Burns would
expose reasons
for a total
ban. This was
amazingly premature
and disrespectful
of Lord Burns
and his team,
which actually
revealed that
there was insufficient
research and
no evidence
to support a
total ban. Thus
the government,
despite claiming
to be neutral,
but trapped
by their own
arrogance and
the prejudice
of some ministers,
had to announce
their Bill
in The Queen's
Speech on 6
Dec' 2000 containing
a bill for a
total ban.
Progress
in The Commons
The bill was
rushed before
the House of
Commons. A majority
of M.Ps were
and still are
prejudiced against
hunting and
The Commons
voted (with
a significantly
lower majority
than the last
such vote) to
send the Bill
to the next
(Committee)
stage containing
only the option
for a total
ban. However,
the loss of
this "battle"
only began the
"war" in Parliament.
The next stage
"Committee"
concluded on
Feb 13 2001.
Only 2 of 4
parts of the draft,
"Total Ban"
parts, were considered
due to time
running out.
Many policy
and legal issues
could not be
wholly resolved
and these
caused the Home
Secretary to
have to make
various concessions.
For instance
a defence against
prosecution
for hunting
with a dog would
be legitimate
if the defendant
could show that
the dog was
actually hunting
a rodent, mink or rabbit. The
Bill was ostensibly
about protecting
animals against
a hunting dog.
But this concession
makes a nonsense
of this. Why
is hunting these
pests with a
dog O.K. but
not the fox
pest. It is
now clear that
the Bill is
not about animals,
but about preventing
humans enjoying
a chase, which
might lead to
the death of
a fox/deer/hare/mink
What next?-----Laws
to prevent humans
enjoying anything
which involves
the chasing
(also flushing?
playing a fish
on a line?)
and possible
death of a living
creature (e.g.
falconry, ferreting,
shooting? fishing?).
Clearly, we
are still at the top
of a slope leading
to ever more
farcical legislation.
The farce of
the 2000 Government Bill was well illustrated
by it being
O.K. to hunt
mink by accident
but not deliberately.
The next stage
"Report" was
held on the
floor of the
House on Feb
29. Further
amendments and
New Clauses
were considered
which did nothing
to address the
illiberal nature
of this deeply
flawed Bill.
There was then
a Third Reading
debate and a
vote ( with
another significant
drop in the
support for
an outright
ban) which sent
it to the House
of Lords as
one option (
"Total Ban")
together with
the Government's
add back of
the two options
rejected by
The Commons
("Middle Way"---i.e.
Statutory Regulation
and "Countryside
Alliance"---i.e.
Supervision
by the existing
Independent
Supervisory
Authority for
Hunting).
Progress
in The Lords
The Lords had
a second reading
debate on all
three options
on March 12
2001. As expected,
a majority of
"Their Lordships"
voted on March
26 2001 (317--
including 52
Labour Peers
and 8 members
of the Government---to
68 )against
a total ban
as a gross infringement
of Human Rights.
Only 51 of 197
Labour Peers
voted for a
ban. A majority
of Lords then
voted (249 to
108) to prefer
the CA option
over the "Middle
Way" (202 against
to 122 for),
which was seen
as excessively
bureaucratic.
Significantly
two members
of "Burns" and
eight members
of the Government
voted for the
Middle Way.
THE "2000
BILL" FAILED
BECAUSE PARLIAMENT
WAS "CLOSED"
FOR THE 2001
GENERAL ELECTION
Run
up to 2001 General
Election
With the General
Election scheduled
for June 7 2001
there was not
enough time
for the Bill
to complete
its passage
through "The
Lords". Thus
the whole process
of handling
a Bill in both
houses of Parliament
had to start
anew. The Labour
Party Manifesto
stated "The
House of Commons
elected in 1997
made clear its
wish to ban
fox-hunting.
The House of
Lords took a
different view
(and reform
has been blocked).
Such issues
are rightly
a matter for
a free vote
and we will
give the new
House of Commons
an early opportunity
to express its
view. We will
then enable
Parliament to
reach a conclusion
on this issue.
If the issue
continues to
be blocked we
will look at
how the disagreement
can be resolved.
We have no intention
whatsoever of
placing restrictions
on the sports
of angling and
shooting."
Alun Michael
(The Minister
responsible
for resolving
the Hunting
Issue) placed
a new Government
Bill ("Mark 2") before
Parliament intended
to "enable Parliament
to reach a conclusion
on hunting with
dogs."
There were
debates in both
Houses of Parliament
on 18/19 March
2002 and a sharp
disagreement
between the
two houses.
There was the
expected large
majority in
the Commons
for an Outright
Ban. In the
Lords, a large
majority voted
for continuing
hunting but
with strict
Regulation.
This was a swing
towards compromise,
because in the
previous vote
the Lords had
voted for non-statutory
supervision.
If the totality
of MPs and Lords
that voted is
added together:
* 52% voted
against a ban
* 55% supported
the Middle Way.
On 21 March
2002 the Minister
for Rural Affairs
made a report
to Parliament
seeking "common
ground" and
containing:
"I propose
a process of
consultation
on the practical
issues of detail
with a wide
variety of interested
parties. This
period will
last no more
than six months,
including work
on drafting
a new Bill. But
we promised
in the manifesto
that it will
be resolved.
Should there
be no way through
and should the
new Bill be
frustrated in
its passage
rather than
scrutinized
and improved,
the Government
could not properly
stand in the
way of the application
of the Parliament
Act, which again
of course would
be a matter
for this House.The
report by Lord
Burns on hunting
with dogs examined
in great detail
the principles
of cruelty Foxman's
insertion; please
note that the
Burns Inquiry
found no evidence
of cruelty in
hunting and utility. We propose to
frame legislation
that prohibits
activity based
on these two
principles rather
than simply
setting out
a list of activities
to be banned.
But the Burns
report did not
provide a route
map. That is
why further
thought needs
to be given
in applying
these principles
and that is
what I shall
be looking at
over the next
few weeks."
Until late
May 2002, some
2 months after
"The process
of consultation"
was supposed
to have started,
there was little
evidence of
serious talks.
Merely a number
of ad-hoc "discussions"
with informal
pro-hunting
groups assembled
in conjunction
with visits
by various politicians
to the countryside.
Since Meacher's
announcement
there were continuous
demonstrations
all over the
country to remind
politicians
of the need
for proper consultation,
rather than
lectures by
politicians
in a highly
charge atmosphere
and masquerading
as consultation.
The pressure
may well have
crystallized
the thoughts
of the Ministry
and helped bring
about talks
on 13 June 2002
between The
Countryside
Alliance (CA),
The Campaign
for Hunting,
The Middle Way
Group, The Campaign
for the Protection
of the Hunted
Animal and The
Minister. On
Sept 9,10 &
11 2002, evidence
was taken in
public from
these organisations.
The government
stated that
it regards this
exercise as
definitive.
It concentrated
on "cruelty
and utility".The
Countryside
Alliance has
summed up these
hearings as
follows:
- On the first
day, it was
clearly established
that there
is a need
for effective
management
of wildlife
by local communities
in the countryside.
Within this,
it was demonstrated
that hunting
brings valuable
practical,
social and
economic benefits.
- On the second
day, the hearings
considered
cruelty and
the principle
of least suffering.
We are pleased
that the experts
concluded
there is no
reason to
apply different
tests to different
wild mammals
- it is the
same for the
field mouse
as it is for
the deer.
- Hunting
has never
been afraid
of being tested
against these
principles
of cruelty
and that remains
its position.
At the end
of these sessions
the clear
consensus
was that there
should be
a common approach
to all animal
welfare.
- On the third
day, the debate
focused on
applying the
principles
of utility
and least
suffering.
It was interesting
and constructive
and reflected
the complexity
of the issues.
It also reinforced
Lord Burns'
comments on
the first
day that any
solution acceptable
to the majority
must be developed
over time.
2003/2004
Introducing the Bill to the House of Commons The Minister said: "Utility and least
suffering provide the golden thread that runs from the start to the finish of the
process and through the drafting of the Bill. That golden thread is strengthened by
the integrity of the process, the basis of principle and the strong focus on evidence
that has led me to conclusions that I hope will command the support of this House.
I will publish a Bill this afternoon but, in advance of that, let me take this opportunity
to outline my reasoning behind those conclusions. There has been support from all
the organisations involved for the idea of drafting legislation on the basis of evidence
and the two principles of cruelty and utility. That in itself is very significant
and should be noted by Opposition Members.
On a number of occasions, John Jackson, chairman of the Countryside Alliance, said,
"If something is cruel, we shouldn't be doing it", and animal welfare organisations
have acknowledged "utility"—the things that need to be done for such
purposes as eradicating vermin or to protect livestock. Indeed, they included a list
of exemptions in the deadline 2000 option that we debated in the last Parliament.
The Middle Way Group has also acknowledged the validity of these two principles.
The Bill is designed to recognise utility and prevent cruelty. Let me briefly spell
out what that means. The utility test involves asking what is necessary to prevent
serious damage to livestock, crops and other property or biological diversity. The
cruelty test involves asking which effective methods of achieving that purpose cause
the least suffering. All activities will be judged on the evidence available about
whether they meet both the tests. Where an activity has no utility and involves cruelty,
it will not be allowed to continue. Incontrovertible evidence shows that the activities
of hare coursing and deer hunting cannot meet the two tests, so these activities will
be banned. Where an activity with dogs has general utility and there is no generally
less cruel method, it will be allowed. Again, incontrovertible evidence has shown
that such activities as ratting and rabbiting should be allowed to continue, and they
will be dealt with in the Bill.
For some activities, the evidence is less clear-cut, so I propose to set up an independent
process to consider on a case-by-case basis whether particular activities involving
dogs meet the two tests. That is consistent with the Burns findings. The
procedure will require an application to an independent registrar showing why there
is a need to undertake the proposed activity and to show that the cruelty test is
satisfied. The procedure will then allow a prescribed animal welfare organisation
to provide evidence as well. If the registrar is satisfied that both tests are met,
he will grant registration; if not, he will refuse. In considering applications, the
registrar will also have to consider whether the applicant will be able to comply
with standard conditions, such as requiring hunted animals to be killed quickly and
humanely when caught. Applicants may also specify conditions to which their hunting will be subject.
If either side wishes to appeal against the decision, it can do so to an independent
tribunal. The tribunal will be a national body with a president at its head appointed
by the Lord Chancellor. A panel will have a legally qualified chair, normally sitting
with two other members—one with land management experience and the other with
animal welfare experience."
"The Mk2 Government
Bill",
introduced to
The Commons
in March 2002, was supposed to reflect the Consultation but
had many logical
inconsistencies
and paid little
attention to
the facts. It
was debated
in December
2002 and passed
to the Committee
Stage. Far from
correcting the
severe flaws,
the anti-hunting
majority of
the Commons
Committee abused
their powers
by choosing
prejudice over
logic. They
passed amendments
to the Bill,
which if adopted
by The Commons,
would have banned
most, but not
all Hunts (
"The Draft
Commons Bill" or "The Final Gov' (Mk3) Bill"
).The
illogical and
vindictive behaviour
of the Anti-
Hunting MPs
in the Committee
is best illustrated
by Alun Michael
( the member of
the Government responsible for Hunting),
who in the Committee
Stage voted
for amendments
obviously intended
to wreck the
"Government's Mk2
Bill" thus failing
to live up to
his own statement
introducing
this, his
own department's, Bill and
failing to stand
up for the bill
that he had
presented to
Parliament.
Such behaviour
has no precedent
and made a mockery
of his claim
that Hunting
would be judged
on the basis
of logic rather
than prejudice
and hatred of
"hunting
people".The Committee
Stage completed
and the "Draft
Commons Bill"
went to 3rd
Reading and
Report Stage
on 30 June 2003.
The Commons,
did not pass even
"The Draft
Commons (Mk3) Bill". The bigotted
anti-hunting
members of The
Commons persuaded
the house to
further amend
the "Draft
Commons (Mk3)Bill"
to become an
Outright Total
Ban uncloaked
in any way---
"The Autumn
2003 Commons
Bill" "Mk4" or
"Banks
Bill".
The Bill, in
this form, was
rejected by
The Lords and
they started
to redraft it
in the Committee
Stage. Unfortunately
the 2 days (21
& 28 Oct
2003) allowed
for this by
the Government
was not enough
and the bill
fell. However,
it was reintroduced
(in the draconian
form it left
the Commons,
"The BANKS
BILL" ---The Ban)
on Wed 15 Sept
2004.
The Lords continued
to try to restore
the Bill to
something much
closer to the
original "Mark 1" Government
Bill.
The
Conservative
peers were singled
out and accused
of wrecking
The Banks Bill. This
was a typical
example of labour
Spin and as
usual thoroughly
dishonest. Firstly,
the Government
failed to allow
enough time
for the Lords
Debate. In the
Commons, there
were 27 sitting
days and 81
hours of debate
in committee.
In the Lords,
it was allowed
two days in
committee and
12 hours
of debate. Secondly,
the Government
was defeated
in the Lords
on two major
amendments.
On one, 271
voted for the
amendment and
58 against.
On the other,
261 voted for,
and 49 against.
If no hereditary
peer and no
Conservative
peer had voted,
the Government
would still
have been defeated.
If the Labour
peers and the
cross-bench
life peers only
had voted, the
Government would
still have lost.
It was not the
Conservative
peers who caused
the Bill's downfall.
The Government
could not get
support even
from its own
back bench peers.
It was the whole
House of Lords
who, like so
many people
in the country,
despised the
Bill.
The Government
deliberately
starved the
Bill of the
time needed,
in order to
clear the logjam
of legislation
left in the
Lords and The
Banks Bill
fell.
The "BANKS
BILL" failed
to pass the
parliamentary
Joint Committee
on Human Rights
because of two
key areas that
would put it
at risk of claims
under the Human
Rights Act,
they are:
- The failure to provide compensation to those who will be affected - including
all those who will lose their jobs, farriers, kennel owners and stable owners.
- The right to stop hunting on private land, and whether ministers have that right.
The Times reported Members want to know whether it is justifiable to restrict
what people do on private property in the public interest. It is a question of
proportionality".
DEFRA were asked to respond to the issues and their response has failed to satisfy
the committee. This issue will need resolving now that the government has reintroduced
the bill.
Special Report on the Human Rights Act incompatibility. Thanks to the Support
Fox-hunting Site http://www.supportfoxhunting.co.uk
The BANKS BILL
is being subjected
to numerous
legal challenges.
USE
OF THE PARLIAMENT
ACTS
The Parliament
Acts were used
to force the
Ban through
against the
votes of The
Lords. There
are severe doubts
that it was
Constitutionally
appropriate
to use the acts
on this issue.
FOXMAN'S COMMENTS ON THE SEVERAL BILLS
THE
GOVERNMENT BILL "MARK 2" (post the Consultation and introducing onerous licensing)
This "Government Bill" may be summarised as follows:
· A ban on hare coursing events and deer hunting:
· Other forms of hunting could be carried out under a national licensing system;
· Licences would be valid for three years and can be applied for on an individual
or group basis;
· A registrar, appointed by the Secretary of State, can grant or refuse a licence
following tests on the grounds of utility and least suffering;
· Animal welfare organizations will be able to submit evidence to the registrar;
· Should a licence be refused, the applicant can then proceed to a National Appeals
Tribunal;
· Should a licence be granted, the animal welfare bodies can also appeal to the Tribunal;
· The Tribunal works under a President, appointed by the Lord Chancellor.
Hunting not requiring a licence under this legislation are:
· stalking and flushing out wild mammals above ground (not involving more than two
dogs);
· the hunting of rabbits;
· falconry;
· recapture or rescue of diseased wild mammals;
· recapture or rescue of escaped wild mammals;
Offenders of the Bill, will receive a £5000 fine.
FAULTS
OF THE MK2 GOVERNMENT
BILL
The short time available for the Public Debate in Westminster, together with the entrenched
prejudices on all sides precluded wholly rational exposure of the many flaws in the
evidence against the utility of hunting and in alleging that it is cruel. Hunting
is a very complex subject, where practices have been evolving for centuries and are
still being adapted in the light of experience.
The Minister claimed that The Government Bill was based
on the Burns Enquiry and evidence for and against fox-hunting which was debated
in public ( The Westminster Hearings) on 9,10 & 11 Sept 2002 by representatives
of the Countryside Alliance (CA) and the Campaign for Hunting, the Middleway Group
and various Anti organisations. In the case of Fox Hunting (but not Stag Hunting
and Hare Coursing), he appears to have accepted the limitations of these processes.
Burns admitted that there was little hard evidence available (please see my discussion
of missing research). IT IS ESSENTIAL THAT THE COUNTRYSIDE
ALLIANCE WITH THE VARIOUS HUNTING AUTHORITIES ARRANGES THAT THIS RESEARCH IS CARRIED
OUT.
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UTILITY. During
summer 2002
The Government
attempted to
clarify "utility"
as follows,
"Utility
addresses the
need for particular
activities,
particularly
in the work
of land and
wildlife managers.
It might be
described as
the need or
usefulness of
an activity
for vermin control, wildlife
management, habitat
protection or land management
and conservation. Absurdly,
this definition
omits all of
the cultural
utility of Hunting. (For several years this website has contained comments on each of these
aspects of "utility". Please click on an aspect above to read these comments). NOTWITHSTANDING
THIS SUMMER
2002 CLARIFICATION
BY THE GOVERNMENT
OF WHAT THEY
MEANT BY "UTILITY",
the definition
in its own Bill
was even more
absurdly restricted
to "what
is necessary
to prevent serious
damage to livestock,
crops and other
property or
biological diversity".
Furthermore,
BECAUSE THIS
BILL CONCENTRATED
ON "UTILITY"
IN THE NARROWEST
SENSE, THE GOVERNMENT
CONTRAVENED
ITS OBLIGATIONS
UNDER THE
RIO DECLARATION
OF 1992, UN
AGENDA 21 &
THE EU HABITATS
DIRECTIVE amongst
others. In particular,
because it ignores
the facts that
Hunting is also
useful in:
- Helping to maintain a healthy, genetically sound fox
population by culling the genetically unsound, weak, old and wounded. Any
ban would harm the UK fox population as a whole.
- Dispersing the fox population leading to the many advantages
of reducing areas of over concentration. Most other methods of control are
not effective in dispersing.
- Helping to maintain much of the traditional appearance
of the UK Countryside.
- Benefitting many UK farmers who earn money by assisting
in the maintenance of the infrastructure of fox-hunting (e.g. by maintaining
hunting horses for customers).
- Sustaining the livelihood of many people in the countryside
and in the towns who derive a significant proportion of their income because
of fox-hunting.
- Maintaining the social and cultural cohesion of many
country communities where fox-hunting is pivotal to the social and other aspects
of the "Country Way of Life".
- The
Bill appeared
to be proposing
that licences
be granted
or not to
whole Packs
of Hounds
on the basis
of the nature
of the countryside
over which
they hunt.
In fact most
hunts have
a mixture
of different
types of countryside;
hillsides,
river valleys,
alluvial plains,
near marshland,
thickly wooded
areas, open
moor, open
areas of ploughed
fields etc.
The logical
method is
that used
during the
Foot &
Mouth Ban;
that is to
grant licences
for specific
areas of a
Hunt Country,
say, meeting
place by meeting
place.
- The Bill places the burden of proof on those seeking
registration. In common with the procedures for new roads etc. and our British
traditions of enterprise and fairness, the burden of proof should rest with those
objecting to a licence being issued.
IN TRUTH THE UTILITY OF HUNTING IS UNIQUE in the broad
scope of itsselective
control of vermin. No other method of controlling the fox population combines
so many aspects of "utility". For instance it is unique in dispersing concentrations of foxes which aggravate predation. It is also particularly cost/effective from
a government viewpoint, because most of the costs are paid by those that enjoy exercising
or observing the many skills required, which have been in use for several millenia.
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EFFICIENCY. ANOTHER ILLOGICAL
ASPECT OF THE
PARLIAMENTARY
DEBATE WAS THAT
SEVERAL M.Ps
INTERPRETED
UTILITY AS RELATIVE
UTILITY IN
THE NARROW SENSE
OF "EFFICIENCY"
( e.g. Cost
per fox killed.
Ignoring the
UNIQUE value
of hunting in dispersing and SELECTIVELY
culling the
fox population).
THEREFORE, THEY
BELIEVED, ERRONEOUSLY,
THAT HUNTING
SHOULD BE ALLOWED
ONLY WHERE CULLING
OF FOXES HAS
THE HIGHEST
PRIORITY AND
OTHER METHODS
ARE IMPRACTICABLE
OR MORE COSTLY
THAN HUNTING.
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IF
SUCH A BILL
WERE TO BE IMPLEMENTED
IN THIS WAY
IT WOULD BAN
MANY HUNTS,
BE
MUCH MORE EXTREME
THAN ANY "MIDDLE
WAY" AND
WOULD BE UNACCEPTABLE
TO THE HOUSE
OF LORDS.
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FLAWED EVIDENCE. The
government viewed
the evidence
given and cross-examined
on 9,10 &
11 Sept 2002
as crucial,
but much of
the evidence
put forward
against Hunting
was flawed.
An example is
a study in autumn
2002 of the
effect on fox
populations
of the cessation
of hunting during
the foot and
mouth epidemic
by Professor
Harris of Bristol
University (
a well known
anti-hunting
activist ).
He claimed that
populations
had not increased
between Feb/March
2001 and Feb/
March 2002.
He drew the
inference that
hunting does
not control
the fox population.
This was clearly
a gross over
simplification
because:
- Foxes
became more
concentrated
in some areas
and less prevalent
in others. This supports
Foxman's argument
that one of
the most important
role of hunting
is to control
the DISTRIBUTION
of foxes.
- Farmers
in several
parts of the
UK found more
foxes about
their livestock
and shot more.
These farms
were a natural
place for
foxes to concentrate.
This supports
Foxman's argument
that another
important
role is to
reduce the
risk of wounding
foxes by shooting.
- Any
biologist
would confirm
that a single
year is far
too short
a time to
draw conclusions
about the
impact of
a change in
circumstances
on an animal
population.
What other
factors were
relevant?
DO
NOT BE MISLED.
THE GOVERNMENT CAPITULATED AND HELPED THROUGH THE BAN FOR PARTY POLITICAL REASONS
Logic was irrelevant
in deciding
the future of
Hunting. In
reality the
Labour Government
was controlled
in taking decisions
about hunting
by any need
to appease on
any matter a
powerful group
of back-benchers
who are "bigottedly"
against hunting.
This fact is
evidenced by
the fact that
The Mk2 Government
Bill would have totally
banned Deer Hunting
and Hare Coursing
Events. The
Minister said
that there is
incontrovertible
evidence these
activities cannot
meet the tests.
That is to say
either Deer/
Hare Control
is unnecessary
and/or Deer
Hunting/Hare
Coursing with
dogs is not
the least cruel
method of Deer/Hare
Control. Burns
came to no such
firm conclusion
and no irrefutable
evidence was
submitted to
the Consultation (Westminster
Hearings). Even
if the Minister's
assertions were to be
correct, there
was no logical
reason to omit
these activities
from the tests
of utility and
prevention of
cruelty inherent
in the proposed
process of registration.
Why was the
authority of
The Registrar
to be presumed
by Government?
It is obvious,
therefore, that
these were introduced
for purely political
reasons.
THE
"LIBERTY AND
LIVELIHOOD"
MARCH
Although claimed to be based on the Burns Findings and the public debate, outlined
above, The Government Bill was vague and inconsistent. Many people saw it as little
more than a disguised attempt to ban Hunting etc. In protest at this attack on "Liberty
and Livelihood", 400,000 people from all walks of life, all parts of the UK and many
other countries, and all political persuasions marched several miles through London
on September 22 2002. The trigger for The March was Hunting, a part of Rural Culture
that unites all "rurals" and "non-rurals" who abhor cultural discrimination. Thus
it was inevitable that The March united "rurals" (including non-rural believers in
liberty) in demonstrating towards ensuring that governments follow the following Countryside
Agenda, cogently set out by the Countryside Alliance.
THE
MEANING OF THE
MARCH
Alun Michael,
(the Minister
responsible
for dealing
with Hunting)
appeared on
TV after The
March and wondered
what it was
about except
as a protest
against a Hunting
Ban. In Foxman's
view IT WAS
ABOUT THE WILLINGNESS
OF "RURALS"
TO TAKE WHATEVER
ACTIONS BECOME
NECESSARY TO
SAVE THEIR LIBERTY
AND LIVELIHOOD.
THE
COUNTRYSIDE
AGENDA
The Countryside Alliance has put forward the following Agenda:
- Ensure any (further) hunting legislation is based on the evidence, is just and respects
the rights of local communities as set out in the Rio Declaration.
- Put the needs and aspirations of country people at the forefront of rural change,
and make their consent of paramount importance.
- Enable British farmers to move away from subsidy dependence and support their
ability to make a fair living in fair markets.
- Instigate re-examination of competitive practices of supermarkets in the food
chain.
- Demonstrate a commitment to the reduction of social exclusion by rolling out broadband
IT in rural areas to the same level as other EU countries.
- Ensure public spending planning reflects the higher cost of providing services
in rural areas.
- Equality of provision of healthcare, education and public security between rural
and urban areas.
- Ensure that all Government legislation and action is rural proofed and all rural
proofing is transparent.
- Reverse disintegration of local communities by enabling them to manage their own
affairs through empowered parish councils.
- Require ALL Government agencies involved in rural affairs to reflect social and
cultural issues and needs throughout their work.
THE FUNDAMENTAL DEFECT IN ANY LABOUR GOVERNMENT
All "liberal" UK citizens (but particularly Country People with their love of tradition)
face problems from a fundamental defect in The Labour Party.
Mr Blair's
article in the
Daily Telegraph
and his attack
on "the forces
of conservatism"
during the Labour
Party 1999 Conference
illustrated Labour's
defective approach
to government.
They revealed
the real motive
behind their
attack on fox-hunting
and the House
of Lords-----A
revival of The
Class War upon
which Socialism
and Communism
were founded.
Labour has merely
redefined the
attacked "class"
as "the forces
of conservatism"
or "Old Britain".
What a pity
that the driving
force behind
Labour is still
the same "Old"
hatred that
played such
a strong part
in its foundation.
The country
hoped for so
much more from
"New"
Labour; we dared
to hope for
a genuinely
fresh approach.
For instance
abandoning old
prejudices for
a willingness
to strive for
compromise between
"Old" and "New". The party in 2007 under Mr Brown has reverted even more strongly to its prejudices.
The
dictatorial
tendency of
the leadership
of Labour is
well illustrated
by their banning
of an entertainment
at the 2000
Labour Party
conference.
This was organized
by a Labour
Pro-Hunting
Group "Leave
Country Sports
Alone" and was
to have to have
been held in
a secure area
with all taking
part searched
on entry. The
reason (poor
excuse) given
for the ban
was that "the
entertainment
was a security
risk". Since
the Labour Leadership
stooped to such
obvious arrogant
abuse of democracy,
how can they
ever be expected
to treat Hunting
fairly or to
run the Country
in anything
other than a
manner reminiscent
of a Fascist
Dictatorship?
Tony Blair's
frequent use
of the phrase
"real people"
is also indicative
of dictatorial
attitudes. Who
are the other
people? Presumably
his thought
processes envisage
an under-people
("untermenschen"as
in Germany under
the Third Reich).
The prejudiced and illogical nature of The Ban is shown by the following argument:
If hunting
with dogs is
believed to
be cruel and
to degrade welfare,
so must Fishing,
Shooting, Falconry,
Ferreting etc.
Why has hunting
with dogs been
singled out?
A large minority
believes that
the real reasons
include:"Hunting
with dogs" covers
fox-hunting with
its strong (but
erroneous) association
with the "upper
(moneyed priveleged without having earned it) classes".
A ban would
be another victory
for the struggle
against the
upper classes.
To a majority
of Country People,
the ban makes
a mockery of
Labour's assertion
that its government
is "for all
of the people".
It seems more
like a smokescreen
to hide Labour's
perpetuation
of the class
struggle and
quest for a
"dictatorship
of the proletariat"
(Old Socialism).
Another factor
is that there
is only political
harm in exploiting
feelings against
Fishing (in
particular)
and other sports
not strongly
associated with
the "upper classes".
Anti-Hunting
and wavering
M.Ps. and candidates
in marginal
seats should
ask themselves
the following
question "do I really wish to support naked prejudice against the Upper Classes and/or by discriminating against "Rural Culture"expose that part of my politics
is undemocratic
and Old Socialism
thinly veiled?". Politicians with these prejudices have sometimes paid a high price. Jackie Ballard,
was thrown
out of her Taunton
Seat partly because
of her opposition
to hunting.
Most polls have
shown that,
given the option
of strict but logical regulation,
the majority
would oppose
retention of
the Ban.
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